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User: Zeus2107
editZeus2107 (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log) continues copyvios upload even after warnings and blocks. Media that were uploaded by this user seems not own work, but copy from various sources and some looks like AI images and cropped and AI enlarge, and EXIF does not give enough data. I'd suggest to delete all uploads. AntanO 13:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Blocked for 3 months. Please check their uploads. Yann (talk) 13:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- The user blanked the page. Is it appropriate? I have tagged some images for deletion nomination, but they should have been tagged for copyvios. ~AntanO4task (talk) 13:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Adamant1 and deletion discussions
editClosing with a two weeks block, see rational below. --Kritzolina (talk) 15:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
User:Adamant1 has made a habit out of indiscriminately nominating every single file in a category for deletion, particularly if the category is AI-related, under vague rationales along the lines of “not educational”. They also seem to have a complete lack of respect and/or understanding of COM:INUSE, both disregarding it in the first place and trying to argue it doesn’t apply after the fact. Examples of behavior:
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:AI-generated toys
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Animals by Midjourney
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Nude or partially nude women by Stable Diffusion
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:AI-generated images by David S. Soriano
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Superstraight
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:AI-generated steampunk
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:AI-generated gibberish
- Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/05/Category:Superstraight (similar behavior shown at Categories for Discussion)
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1#DRs_for_in-use_images worth linking
I do not think Adamant1 knows or cares enough about deletion policy to be trusted with it any longer. Their willingness to disregard COM:INUSE is particularly concerning. I think they should be topic banned from this area and potentially CfD as well. Dronebogus (talk) 18:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think a topic ban is excessive at this time, but @Adamant1 I think it is incumbent as you as nominator to at least make a solid pass at working out whether images you are nominating are in use or not (and if so where), rather than pushing that work off onto other people. I just spent an hour trying to make sense of the very varied statuses of images at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:AI-generated gibberish; I feel that is work that you as nominator should have done. - Jmabel ! talk 19:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate the need for some cleanup regarding unused AI-generated personal artworks, but I agree with Dronebogus' concerns above.
- Also, apart from Adamant1 repeatedly misrepresenting policy and making various other factually wrong claims in favor of deletions (example, concerning an image that is currently in use on 14 different language Wikipedias, often since over two years ago), there are also serious civility issues with Adamant1's behavior in context of these DRs. (Folks more familiar with the conventions of this noticeboard: Feel free to advise in case this should rather be made into a separate thread.) See e.g. Adamant1's personal attacks against User:JPxG just within the last 24 hours:
- Sorry, I didn't know you couldn't read multi-sentence paragraphs. My bad. I'll be sure to draw you picture next time. I'd say to see my comment below this for further clarification, but it's probably to many sentences for your reading compression level. Again, sorry, I'll try to stick to simple kindergarten level diagrams next time. Since that seems to be all your capable of reading[1]
- I was just trying to be accommodating to your reading comprehension level since it seemed like it's short. No insult intended though [2].
- I raised this to Adamant1, asking to refrain from claims that another Commons user has deficient intellectual capabilities. However, they reacted badly, rejecting the request to stop such ad hominem attacks and justifying them as minor pushback to the above mentioned criticism of misrepresenting the relevant policy and (separately) to criticism of a separate mistaken legal claim Adamant1 had made in favor of possibly banning images that were clearly generated with SD 3 if not AI artwork more generally (although JPxG wasn't even involved in the debunking of Adamant1's assertions in the latter).
- Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- That’s another issue I’m seeing with their behavior— they don’t just disagree or even get mad when people call them out, they act like that person is stupid for disagreeing with their obviously incorrect interpretation of policy. They’re a good contributor in other ways, but this kind of behavior is patently unacceptable and should result in an indef if they don’t cut it out immediately. Dronebogus (talk) 21:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- PS, to add regarding factually wrong claims, another very recent example: As detailed here, Adamant1 straight up misquoted the scope policy in one of his belittling comments to JPxG. I.e. a supposedly verbatim "quote" in Adamant1's comment does not actually occur in the policy, and the corresponding section actually contradicts Adamant1's claims there.
- I would not bring these up if these were isolated mistakes of the kind that can credibly occur to anyone acting in good faith. But we are seeing a repeated disregard for the facts here that is very disruptive and is wasting lots of time by other editors who are confronted with Adamant1's many misleading assertions. (This is also already visible just in this section, see Dronebogus spending time below on providing detailed evidence to correct another such misleading claim by Adamant1.)
- Regards, HaeB (talk) 22:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment People are free to read through the multiple discussions on my talk page and the DRs that Dronebogus has linked to. The fact is that the same 2 or 3 users repeatedly messaged me in an extremely rude, lecturing way about something that I explained to them multiple times and refused to get the point that the guideline has exceptions for the "in use" clause. @JPxG: in particular repeatedly tried to act like I nominated the images for deletion because I just dislike AI-generated artwork and think it's "low quality." When I told them multiple times that the quality of the images has nothing to do with the DRs.
- Nowhere did I say in any DR what-so-ever that they have anything to do with the quality of the artwork or my personal opinions about the quality. Yet @JPxG: was clearly incapable of getting the point and dropping it. I'll also note that I told of them multiple times that I encourage them to ask about it on the village and get whatever they think isn't clear in the guidelines clarified. Which they refused to do. Instead continuing to message about it in an extremely lecturing rude way across multiple talk pages. This is 100% a made up issue though. I don't have a "habit of disregarding COM:INUSE." In fact rarely, if ever, nominate in use files for deletion. Except in extremely rare instances that I go out of my way to explain. Again, people like the commenters above (including @Dronebogus: are just being opportunists and are just refusing to get the point that there are exceptions to the "in use" policy. Again, I encourage them or anyone else to get the specifics of when and how it applies or not clarified on the Village Pump. They clearly don't actually care about though outside of harassing me because I didn't just a bend a knee to their nonsense. --Adamant1 (talk) 21:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- How do you justify comments like [3] and [4]? I can't see any way in which they're acceptable according to our regular policies, they're far from exceptional for you and they would normally be seen as block-worthy. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Frustration over him and others refusing to get the point and drop it. That happens sometimes. It was a multiple day thing across multiple conversations that he and the other people involved refused to drop and get the point about. The first comment was also made on my talk page. Where I'm under the understanding that we have more leeway to express ourselves. I wouldn't have made that comment anywhere else, but it's my talk page and I can say what I want on it. That's on him for engaging in the discussion in an extremely rude way and then refusing to get the point. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's impossible to "drop it", because you are continuing to make invalid mass-deletion requests for dozens of images as we speak, in which you make demonstrable false claims about policy which nobody agrees with. This is blatantly disruptive and borders on trolling. JPxG (talk) 00:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- How long have you been here now? We might excuse Frustration over him as an excuse for incivility in a new editor, but you've been here a while and know how things work. Not wanting to be Al Capone's tax inspector, I don't want to turn this behavioural issue into a simpler (and likely to be swept under the carpet) one about civility; but still these rules still apply to you and you're well into a blockable space.
- AI images are a problem for us, as they've recently expanded outside our established corpus of policy and practice. Clearly you hold that INUSE doesn't apply to them. There are real questions here as to whether Commons should hold AI images, preserve INUSE as applying to them, or even (which we are traditionally shy of) dictate to other projects that (like NFC, but unlike PENIS) 'we just don't store that stuff here'. There is room for debate on this. Traditionally DRs have been used as a forum for some of that. But your approach here is against our norms of behaviour. You didn't start these DRs with a question, "Should INUSE be suspended for AI? Here are some items affected." but instead you simply sledgehammered INUSE, on no more basis than "I, Adamant, am adamant over this." That's not good enough, it's not how we work. If you're really debating a policy shift, at least make it clear that this is what you're doing, not just using it as an assumption. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Clearly you hold that INUSE doesn't apply to them. More specifically to the ones I nominated for deletion. There's plenty of AI images currently in use that I wouldn't nominate for deletion though. Your just cherry picking to spin a non-exiting narrative about the deletion requests.
- Frustration over him and others refusing to get the point and drop it. That happens sometimes. It was a multiple day thing across multiple conversations that he and the other people involved refused to drop and get the point about. The first comment was also made on my talk page. Where I'm under the understanding that we have more leeway to express ourselves. I wouldn't have made that comment anywhere else, but it's my talk page and I can say what I want on it. That's on him for engaging in the discussion in an extremely rude way and then refusing to get the point. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- How do you justify comments like [3] and [4]? I can't see any way in which they're acceptable according to our regular policies, they're far from exceptional for you and they would normally be seen as block-worthy. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't start these DRs with a question, "Should INUSE be suspended for AI? Here are some items affected." Yeah, I didn't because I don't think it should be suspended for for AI artwork. There's plenty of places where it's totally legitimate and there's some where it isn't. That's it. This has never had anything to do with AI artwork more generally and nowhere have I ever said it does. I don't even disagree with the rest of your musing about it. That's why I invited the people I got in the dispute with to discuss it on the village pump. Repeatedly treating me like I have opinions or position that I don't really isn't helpful though. I'm not advocating for, nor have I ever advocated for, a policy shift. I'm applying the policies as they currently apply. While saying I think it's worth getting some parts of it clarified to in order to help resolve a dispute. You know that and what a strawman argument is. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Adamant1: You just nominated 14 in-use files in one deletion request alone! How is that “rarely, if ever”? Dronebogus (talk) 22:07, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- And I gave multiple reasons for the DR. Ones that your free to disagree with, but its not like I didn't provide any. Anyway do you any other examples of doing that before? Because I can't think of any and your the one claiming its a pattern. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:20, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well besides almost every other deletion discussion I mentioned, I can’t immediately cite any, but I’m sure I can find at least one Dronebogus (talk) 22:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Here’s one: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Abraham Lincoln using a smartphone (anachronism).jpg Dronebogus (talk) 22:24, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cosmopolitan Artificial Intelligence cover.png Dronebogus (talk) 22:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Possible depiction of LHS 1140 b landscape with black grass and red starlight.jpg Dronebogus (talk) 22:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Police arresting Donald Trump (Midjourney) Dronebogus (talk) 22:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: I was hoping for another DR involving 14 files that were "in use" since that was your example. Its not against the rules to nominate images for deletion or for those images to be kept. There's certainly instance where I've nominated in use files for deletion and that waa the outcome. So your just cherry picking. Maybe compare that to my nominations over all and the one involving the images being deleted. The claim here is that I have a pattern of "indiscriminately" creating sparious DRs for "in use files" though. Not just I get something wrong once in a while. That's litterally how this works. No one, including you, has a perfect track record on here. You've certainly created plenty if DRs for porn files that weren't depeted. Clearly that must mean your just doing indiscriminate DRs because your against pornography. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, let’s shift the attention onto me. Because that’s a good debate strategy. Dronebogus (talk) 22:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: I'm not trying to shift the attention to you, but your the one who opened this and if your claim is that I should be because have a pattern of indiscriminately nominating "in use" files for deletion then at least IMO it should be above and beyond the normal amount of mistakes people (including you) tend to make in deletion requests. That's not to say I'm not responsible for getting things wrong once in awhile, but again, everyone does and that's not the claim your making. I know "Adamant1 gets a few DRs wrong sometimes just like everyone else" doesn't have the same ring to it though. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, let’s shift the attention onto me. Because that’s a good debate strategy. Dronebogus (talk) 22:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: I was hoping for another DR involving 14 files that were "in use" since that was your example. Its not against the rules to nominate images for deletion or for those images to be kept. There's certainly instance where I've nominated in use files for deletion and that waa the outcome. So your just cherry picking. Maybe compare that to my nominations over all and the one involving the images being deleted. The claim here is that I have a pattern of "indiscriminately" creating sparious DRs for "in use files" though. Not just I get something wrong once in a while. That's litterally how this works. No one, including you, has a perfect track record on here. You've certainly created plenty if DRs for porn files that weren't depeted. Clearly that must mean your just doing indiscriminate DRs because your against pornography. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know how much we need to get into detail about this particular misleading assertion by Adamant1; but yes, in general it does seem indeed worth documenting what looks like a frequent pattern (see also the case of the nonexistent policy quote, above). Regards, HaeB (talk) 22:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm really sure what your talking. What "nonexitent" policy am I qouting? As far as I know all the qoutes of guidelines on my side were copied directly from COM:INUSE. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please read the above comment I was referring to, and the more detailed examination of your tampered quote here. Regards, HaeB (talk) 23:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm really sure what your talking. What "nonexitent" policy am I qouting? As far as I know all the qoutes of guidelines on my side were copied directly from COM:INUSE. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- And I gave multiple reasons for the DR. Ones that your free to disagree with, but its not like I didn't provide any. Anyway do you any other examples of doing that before? Because I can't think of any and your the one claiming its a pattern. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:20, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Adamant1: You just nominated 14 in-use files in one deletion request alone! How is that “rarely, if ever”? Dronebogus (talk) 22:07, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Looking through the archives of this board, this is not the first time that users have brought up such problems with Adamant1's behavior here. E.g. the following past comments (each from a different user who is not involved in the current exchanges AFAICS) seem to also describe the current problems quite well:
- This user has a problematic behavior, repeatedly going for personal attacks ([5], [6]) when actions are contested, notably creating a large number of disruptive deletion requests about FOP in Belgium. I am not the only one thinking that this is a problem. Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_112#Adamant1)
- As usually, Adamant1 doesn't see what the issue is, and is willing to put up walls of text to explain why he's not the problem but everyone else is (Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_112#Adamant1)
- excessively hostile and condescending. (Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_107#Adamant1)
- User consistently applies a definition of civility that is at odds with what everybody else understands it to mean, and displays a general attitude of bad faith day after day. (Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_99#User:Adamant1)
- This list of examples is non-exhaustive. It seems evident that many previous requests to Adamant1 to change their problematic behavior, and two past short-term blocks for related issues, have not resulted in sustained improvements.
- Regards, HaeB (talk) 23:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think the combination of current examples, block history, and w:wp:IDHT/Everyone-else-is-wrong attitude are enough to recommend an indefinite block of Adamant1 for incivility, lack of policy understanding and continual misuse/overuse of the DR system. Dronebogus (talk) 23:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Show of hands. Does anywhere here seriously think there is or should be a complete ban on nominating "in use" files for deletion? --Adamant1 (talk) 00:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is an absurdly disingenuous comment that misrepresents the positions of everyone involved: nobody ever said that there was, or should be, a "complete ban" on deleting in-use files. Indeed, policies explicitly allow this in lots of scenarios: copyright violations, legal issues, bad-faith use of files. What they do not allow is the deletion of files that are legal, freely-licensed, not in violation of Commons policy, and used on other projects in ways that comply with their own policies, on the sole basis that you want them to be deleted -- people have asked you about a dozen times for literally any rationale that isn't "I want them deleted" (policy, guideline, consensus, etc) and each time you have refused, often insulting the person who asked. JPxG (talk) 00:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is the User problems noticeboard, not COM:VP or another venue for discussing what COM:SCOPE or other policies should read like. Please address the specific concerns about your behavior above, instead of trying to distract from them. (But for the record and to discourage strawmanning: I for one am quite comfortable with the limited exceptions of COM:INUSE in the current version of COM:SCOPE. The problem is your persistent misinterpretations of this policy.)
- Regards, HaeB (talk) 00:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @JPxG: The problem is that there's no way to determine if they files go against any of those scenarios because you both initiated this and attacked me over it right after I started the deletion requests and before they were actually closed. So it seems like that's your position. You can't have it both ways where it's both disingenuous to treat you like there should be any exceptions, but then repeatedly treat me like that's exactly what your position is. Otherwise you could have at least waiting into the DRs where concluded and other people had commented on them before claiming the whole thing spurious and not based on policy.
- @Please address the specific concerns about your behavior above.: The specific concerns where that I have a history of opening DRs for "in use" files in a way that goes against the guidelines and the question directly relates to that. I've also asked you multiple to clarify what exactly you think I'm misinterpreting and you haven't answered me. So it clear to me that either you just don't want to admit you have no argument or you think there isn't a situation where it's OK to nominate "in use" for deletion. Hence the clarifying question about it. So which one is it? Either there's exceptions and this is a nothing burger, or there aren't and it's justified. There really isn't any other options there though. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I have reverted the misleading move of the above comment that Adamant1 conducted as part of this edit.
- Moving the comment away from the above two responses to it rendered them unintelligible (by removing their reference point) and created the misleading impression that JPxG's statement This is an absurdly disingenuous comment ... was referring to a comment by myself instead of Adamant1's. (See also COM:TALK.) I have asked Adamant1 to stop such disruptive behavior. Regards, HaeB (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I commented about the move on talk page. There were comments to it at the time when I moved the question and I moved it so it wouldn't get lost in other stuff. I what happened is that both you and JPxG commented at the same time I was moving it. That's not a crime. Nor is it dispruptive. Your clearly just looking for things to be upset about. Especially since I already explained the mistake to you on my talk page. This whole thing is 100% bad faithed drama farming. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
In general, I am not an administrator on Commons and I don't know what the general precedent is about user conduct here, but I think that if somebody is repeatedly making disruptive nominations, insulting other users and then outright lying (e.g. "quoting" policy and then editing it to say different things) this indicates either temperament or competence issues which are incompatible with continued participation on the project. JPxG (talk) 00:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- This user has spent days making wildly disruptive DRs From what I remember all the DRs that are being questioned here were opened either yesterday or last night. Nor has any of them been closed yet. In no way is me opening 4 DRs in the same night that haven't even concluded yet "spending days making wildly disruptive DRs." Comments like that are large part of the problem here. Your the one who repeatedly initiated the conversations, continued making spurious claims like that one in them, and then refused to get the point and stop making things personal. I'm sorry if I got a little defense in between countering your constantly disingenuous comments, but that's life. You had plenty of opportunities to just drop it and move on. Your the one who repeatedly decided to continue it across multiple talk pages when I made it more then clear that I was done with the conversation. Sorry, but I'm not going to just sit there silently while someone continuously makes spurious, insulting comments about me over and over in multiple places. That's not how this works. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- The claims are objectively false, multiple people have demonstrated this, and Adamant's response is to just keep saying them over and over.
- This is not acceptable behavior: it's disruptive editing, and moreover it's a pretty long-standing pattern. On the English Wikipedia they have repeatedly been siteblocked for the exact same type of incivility paired with refusal to accept that their edits violate both guidelines and consensus, culminating in an indefinite topic ban from deletion discussions outside of articles they created. Indeed, it would not even be the first time their trolling/edit warring on Commons warranted a block. I think that a topic ban on deletion here may be warranted. JPxG (talk) 02:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- What's objectively false? From what I've seen all the examples are from the last day or two and none of them have been closed yet. Except for the CfD for "Superstraight" from May, but that's not a deletion request and it still hasn't been closed either. Your the one claiming I've "spent days making wildly disruptive DRs." So what exactly am I saying that's "objectively false" and where's the evidence that I've "spent days making wildly disruptive deletion requests"? --Adamant1 (talk) 02:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- It’s inherently disruptive to violate policy; CfDs take forever and a day to close even when the outcome is super obvious so that’s not much of an argument when the consensus at the discussion is clearly against you. Dronebogus (talk) 02:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: sure. But then a day into this and a ton of messages later you still haven't provided any evidence of me violating any policy. But then your still out there making off-topic personal comments in DRs about me. So...Why not drop it and move on? --Adamant1 (talk) 09:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- It’s inherently disruptive to violate policy; CfDs take forever and a day to close even when the outcome is super obvious so that’s not much of an argument when the consensus at the discussion is clearly against you. Dronebogus (talk) 02:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- What's objectively false? From what I've seen all the examples are from the last day or two and none of them have been closed yet. Except for the CfD for "Superstraight" from May, but that's not a deletion request and it still hasn't been closed either. Your the one claiming I've "spent days making wildly disruptive DRs." So what exactly am I saying that's "objectively false" and where's the evidence that I've "spent days making wildly disruptive deletion requests"? --Adamant1 (talk) 02:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- The problems here are (a) Adamant1 is not putting in sufficient effort to exclude files which are likely to be kept as in scope; (b) any nomination of an in-use files on scope grounds needs a detailed explanation as to why the usual guidance of keeping in use files should not be followed; (c) Adamant1 does not know when to back down/cool off. Some of these nominated files look like they should be deleted. Some don't. I think we can probably move forward with some assurances/understanding here, but if it continues the way it has been a topic ban seems possible. — Rhododendrites talk | 03:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- A and B are underpinned by the user's apparent conviction that they can ignore COM:INUSE because they don't think that it's written clearly enough. (They also keep calling it a guideline rather than a policy, but I don't know if that distinction means anything to them.)
- A June 29 thread on the user's talk page has three different editors asking them to follow COM:INUSE in future deletion requests. Adamant1 concludes that Personally, I'd love to see a lot of this get clarified. That's on you guys to do as the ones who disagree with the guidelines current wording to do though. and a few hours later opens deletion discussions on Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:AI-generated gibberish (17 of 31 of which are in use on other projects) and Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:AI-generated images by David S. Soriano (25 of 25 in use).
- If a user's response to finding a policy hard to understand is to ignore it, and to take multiple challenges of their interpretation as a sign that the policy needs to change, that seems like a fundamental problem with how they're using this website. Belbury (talk) 08:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Where did I say I misunderstand it? I understand it perfectly fine. I was just talking about getting the disagreement being resolved on the village pump because it didn't seem like the dispute on my talk page about it was going anywhere. Isn't that the whole point in the village pump? --Adamant1 (talk) 09:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- You've said in a few places that COM:INUSE "isn't clear" to you. Belbury (talk) 09:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it's clear in general. That includes to me and It's obviously not clear to the people I got in the confrontation with going by their comments about it. But there's at least a couple of places where key parts of it either aren't well defined or contradict each other. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- You've said in a few places that COM:INUSE "isn't clear" to you. Belbury (talk) 09:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Where did I say I misunderstand it? I understand it perfectly fine. I was just talking about getting the disagreement being resolved on the village pump because it didn't seem like the dispute on my talk page about it was going anywhere. Isn't that the whole point in the village pump? --Adamant1 (talk) 09:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Admin questions for you Adamant1: Do you understand what parts of your behaviour are disruptive to many users as stated above? This is not about rules or if the behaviour is officially in line with policies or not. This is about collaborating respectfully on Commons. Are you willing to try and change at least some of that behaviour, to help this project thrive? --Kritzolina (talk) 07:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have a problem changing anything I'm doing if there's a genuine issue with my behavior. That said, I'm kind losf about what the actual problem is here. I already said I got a little defense on my talk page. And I'll try to better about that of course. But I really don't understand what actual problem there is here besides a couple of people throwing a fit a few DRs that haven't even been closed yet and don't seem to be a problem anyway. It's a little unfair to tell me the rules and policies don't matter to this when a disagreement about the guidelines has what instigated this. Otherwise the uncivility was both sides and I more then went out my way to disengauge and move on. They continued it. That said, sure. I'll be more civil next time. But I'm not here to just get brow beat repeatedly over and over by the same couple of people while I nod my head about how much of a piece of shit I am or whatever. Sorry. Again, I don't know what the problem here is outside of that one comment on my talk page and it certainly doesn't rise to the level of justify a block. So can you be more specific about what the actual problem is? Otherwise that's really all I have to say about it. Sorry. I rather just move on like I've been repeatedly asking everyone else to do. Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Adamant1, this is a very unsatisfying answer. Several users took a lot of time to try to explain to you, what the actual problem is. Rules her are created to help avoid conflicts like these and to help a collaborative working atmosphere. You are doing a lot that is disruptive to other users. Most of it is related to Deletion Requests and discussion following DRs. Would you be willing to stop nominating images for deletion for a month and use the time to try and understand what others see as disruptive? We then could continue this conversation on your talkpage or mine, or even per mail, where it doesn't disrupt that many others. Kritzolina (talk) 13:09, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kritzolina: I've provided 5 examples of deletion requests for "in use" files at the bottom of this. Including two where the person who started this voted to delete the images. One of those also happened to have from a few days ago and I was the person who started it. So no, I don't really see what the problem is here. The person who filed this literally voted to delete "in use" files a few days ago and then reported me for it. So it really isn't clear to me what the issue here is. The stuff being complained about here are things that the person making the complaints seems to have no-issue-what-so-ever with outside of this complaint.
- @Adamant1, this is a very unsatisfying answer. Several users took a lot of time to try to explain to you, what the actual problem is. Rules her are created to help avoid conflicts like these and to help a collaborative working atmosphere. You are doing a lot that is disruptive to other users. Most of it is related to Deletion Requests and discussion following DRs. Would you be willing to stop nominating images for deletion for a month and use the time to try and understand what others see as disruptive? We then could continue this conversation on your talkpage or mine, or even per mail, where it doesn't disrupt that many others. Kritzolina (talk) 13:09, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would also appreciate it if you read the last discussion on my talk page "Do not rearrange talk pages in a misleading way." @HaeB: blamed me for an edit that was clearly an accident and then continued to do so after I told him as much. Even repeating the same claim that I did it on purpose here in this ANU complaint. This is clearly a bad faithed fishing attempt by both him and Dronebogus. I'm not going to take a month off from something that isn't a problem. And again, I say that because Dronebogus has no issue with it outside of the ANU complaint.
- I'm not the one causing the disruption here. They are. I told them I was more then willing to discuss it on the Village Pump. They refused to and Dronebogus filed this instead. It's not on me if they didn't want to use the normal channels to resolve the problem before reporting me. Someone can't just refuse to seek a resolution to a problem through the normal channels and then file an ANU complaint about something they have absolutely no issue with doing themselves. Sorry. I'm not taking a break for that. There was no reason they couldn't have met me half way and discussed it on the Village Pump like I asked them to. Then waited to see what the consensus was before filing this if it was actually a genuine issue. I certainly would have been totally fine with that and not nominating any more "in use" images for deletion until it was resolved. --Adamant1 (talk) 13:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Just a quick comment regarding the "in use" issue because I have only a few minutes free time now, the user seems to misunderstand under which circumstances files that are in use can be deleted and mixes up scope and other issues, see my recent answer in a DR to their Plenty of files that are "in use" get deleted pretty routinely argument. Gestumblindi (talk) 10:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Gestumblindi: In use files do get deleted pretty routinely. Especially if the files are of AI-artwork. I'm pretty busy with other things right now, but I'm more then happy to provide some examples when I have the time if you really want them. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Here's three off the top of my head. The last two are specifically for AI-generated images and funny enough, but @Dronebogus: voted delete in the second one even though the files were being used at the time. Go figure. I'll add more when I have the time.
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Grammar Nazi icons
- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Wall Street Crash of 1929.jpg
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Khoriphaba
- Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Hyju
- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Communist California.jpeg (Another "in use" file that @Dronebogus: voted delete on. He must just not understand how COM:INUSE works) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamant1 (talk • contribs) 12:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
I think I'm more sympathetic than some others here to Adamant1's position that INUSE should be especially scrutinized for AI images. Let's look at an example, File:Laikhulempi (Laikhurembi) - Goddess of argument, divine law, good counsel, justice, order, retribution & secrecy - Queen of the Underworld - Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of ancient Kangleipak.jpg. It's one of many created by the same user. That user then added the images to a range of obscure Wikipedia articles in multiple languages and to Wikidata. There's no indication of some broad consensus to include -- it's just one person adding their own made-up representation of a mythological figure to places that don't get any scrutiny. I don't know if that image should be considered in scope here, but I certainly don't think its "inuse" status should preclude debate. That said, some of the in use files Adamant1 has nominated don't appear so problematic, being used for The Signpost, or to illustrate AI art itself, etc. That's why I say above the important thing will be for Adamant1 to be very articulate when they don't see an "in use" as valid. — Rhododendrites talk | 13:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Rhododendrites: I looked into it more and I'm more then willing to agree that images being used on the Signpost, or to illustrate AI art itself are probably fine not to delete. Although I think there's a grey area with the last one though since a user created a Wikibook awhile ago specifically for the purposes of faking usage so AI artwork couldn't be deleted. So I think that one should depend on the situation. But I'm more then willing to say nominating the images for deletion that were being used on the Signpost and the Wikipedia article for AI artwork were probably to broad. I disagree that it warrants this whole row though. A simple message on my talk page explaining the situation in simple terms and sticking to the facts would have been perfectly fine. --Adamant1 (talk) 13:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
I am going to close this with a two week block - this is the second such block, next time should be for a longer preiod. @Adamant1, you should try to remember that collaboration is more important than defending rules and listen to voices that have different views on those rules from yours. You are causing others unnecessary work with your DRs and making problems by blaming everyone and not looking for your own part in those issues. Learn how to compromise or you are in danger of losing certain editing rights permanently (topic ban from DRs for example) or even all editing rights on Commons. I am still willing to communicate more with you about proper behaviour on Commons on your talkpage or via Wikimail, so feel free to start a discussion - but I will discuss only if it starts with real curiosity about what you could do differently, not if you are just going to blame everyone else. --Kritzolina (talk) 15:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kritzolina: I talked about it on my talk page and said I was willing to discuss it on the Village Pump. I was dog piled and reported to ANU before I had chance to though. So I don't really see how I wasn't being collaborative. It's not my fault that I wasn't given a chance to discuss it. I was more then willing to hold of on the DRs for a while well it was worked out to. Again, no one involved in this gave me the chance. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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Repeated insults, threats and personal comments in DRs by Dronebogus
editNo admin action required. Yann (talk) 20:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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Just to quote a few of the many insults and personal comments from @Dronebogus: out there.
- "yet another indiscriminate “let’s delete everything in a category because it’s AI” nomination from Adamant1."
- "I’m not going through them individually to say “keep toss keep keep toss x3” because Adamant1 clearly couldn’t be bothered themself."
- "This is a gross violation of policy and I’m half thinking of reporting them if it continues apace."
- "The OP is effectively trying to override COM:INUSE as part of a campaign to purge commons of as many AI generated images as possible."
Again, those are just the couple of comments I could find. There's plenty more out there though. Just to add to that, @Dronebogus: has been reported to ANU for his behavior multiple times. He clearly has a history of being overly aggressive, rude, and making things personal for no reason. I'm not going to suggest a an indefinite block since like he did for me above this because I don't think it's warranted at this point. He should at least be warned not to badger, threaten, or disparage other users in deletion requests though. Since, again, it's something he's been warned about multiple times now. Adamant1 (talk) 01:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Apart from the fact that this gives a strong impression of being a retaliation attempt for the report right above: How exactly are the quoted statements insults and personal comments? They all seem to refer to specific actions and statements of yours. I.e. they are comment[ing] on content or behaviour, not on the contributor in the sense of COM:NPA.
- Regards, HaeB (talk) 01:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- They all seem to refer to specific actions and statements of yours. Where have I ever opened "indiscriminate" deletion requests or "grossly violated policy" in relation to this or anything else? Because I don't think I have and false accusations are inherently personal attacks due to the nature of the thing. Especially if they are made repeatedly and without evidence as is clearly the case here. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I recommend this section be speedily closed as trolling, as it is an obvious attempt at retaliatory filing due to Dronebogus opening a thread about Adamant1; indeed, it is the section directly above this one, opened just 7 hours ago. JPxG (talk) 01:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see how this can be retaliation when I didn't even propose a sanction. Regardless, I thought you guys were all for holding people accountable for their behavior here. Apparently that only goes one way with you people. Then you get all ass mad when I say your just cry bullying. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would have reported him anyway since its a chronic problem that he's already been warned about multiple time. There's no rule against opening an ANU complaint about for chronically disruptive behavior just because a similar one exists at the time. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- What chronic problem? Warned when and where? I have my own crap, yeah, but none of it’s relevant here or involves you. Dronebogus (talk) 03:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: I don't the time to find specific diffs right now, but when there was the whole row over AI artwork a while back multiple people including myself repeatedly asked you to stop acting like anyone who disagrees with you about it just hates the technology and/or wants to erase it from Commons. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- That was a while ago. This is now, and I wouldn’t say anyone is currently on your side right now. Dronebogus (talk) 04:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- So? It shows a pattern of behavior that you clearly have no concern about or willingness to fix. I thought that was the whole point here. Be the change you want to see in the world. As I've said, I'm perfectly fine with discussing the specifics of what people disagree with me on about the guidelines on the Village Pump. As I think it would help to clarify things. It doesn't seem like anyone involved in this wants to do that though. So I don't know what to tell you. At least do me a favor though and stop with the disruptive, off-topic personal comments in DRs going forward. I'm sick of asking. Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I generally try to abide by people's preferences here, but your repeated claims that others' comments are off-topic, personal attacks, et cetera are rather confusing to me; it seems like you say this based on the fact that a comment reflects negatively on you. I don't think it is reasonable to demand that users accept a blanket restriction on mentioning things that you have said or done (indeed this defeats the purpose of having discussions). JPxG (talk) 15:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @JPxG: I'm not saying any of that because the comments reflect negatively on me. I'm saying it because the comments have nothing to do with the deletion requests or why I nominated the images for deletion. As I've said, I could really care less about the comments on a personal level. I'm not here to clout shark or do things purely to boast my reputation on here with a bunch rondos. The issue purely comes down to the fact that the comments just create needless, extra noise that's a waste of everyone's time to read and respond to. The fact is that personal comments always get ignored by the closing admin.
- I generally try to abide by people's preferences here, but your repeated claims that others' comments are off-topic, personal attacks, et cetera are rather confusing to me; it seems like you say this based on the fact that a comment reflects negatively on you. I don't think it is reasonable to demand that users accept a blanket restriction on mentioning things that you have said or done (indeed this defeats the purpose of having discussions). JPxG (talk) 15:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- So? It shows a pattern of behavior that you clearly have no concern about or willingness to fix. I thought that was the whole point here. Be the change you want to see in the world. As I've said, I'm perfectly fine with discussing the specifics of what people disagree with me on about the guidelines on the Village Pump. As I think it would help to clarify things. It doesn't seem like anyone involved in this wants to do that though. So I don't know what to tell you. At least do me a favor though and stop with the disruptive, off-topic personal comments in DRs going forward. I'm sick of asking. Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- That was a while ago. This is now, and I wouldn’t say anyone is currently on your side right now. Dronebogus (talk) 04:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: I don't the time to find specific diffs right now, but when there was the whole row over AI artwork a while back multiple people including myself repeatedly asked you to stop acting like anyone who disagrees with you about it just hates the technology and/or wants to erase it from Commons. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- What chronic problem? Warned when and where? I have my own crap, yeah, but none of it’s relevant here or involves you. Dronebogus (talk) 03:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would have reported him anyway since its a chronic problem that he's already been warned about multiple time. There's no rule against opening an ANU complaint about for chronically disruptive behavior just because a similar one exists at the time. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Full stop, they don't care about the needling. They want to hear actual policy based reason's for why the file should be deleted or kept. So all personal comments do is waste space and if anything, it's your lose because you then don't get to make a policy based argument that the closing admin will care about. That's fine, but at the end of the day we are here to organize a media repository. Not wax poetic about each other's fault or use deletion requests as a glorified grade school playground. At least do it someone else's DRs if that's all your here for. Otherwise make a policy based argument and move on. None of the admins give a crap about your personal opinion that I hate AI-generated media or whatever though. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- The utter pettiness on display here is yet more evidence that Adamant1 should be indeffed. Adamant1, you are not always right; getting theatrically offended every time you don’t get your way, or someone disagrees with you, is not changing that. Dronebogus (talk) 02:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- That's litterally what you've been doing this whole time. So I think your projecting. Regardless, those types of comments are inherently personal and off-topic to the DRs where you made them. I could really careless about it on a personal level, but they inherently disruptive to the process die to the nature of the thing. I don't know about you, but I have better things to do then constantly read through and respond to personal comments that have nothing to do with why I nominated the images for deletion.
- You can chalk that up to over sensitivity on my part. But I see it purely as a needless, disruptive time waster. If not an intentional attempt to derail things on your side. The same as it would be if someone constantly commented in DRs about their cat. More so in this case though because people have already told you multiple times to cut the sparious comments about other people's motiviations. I know I have swveral times. Your the one seems to be unwilling to get the point and keep your attitude in check after multiple warnings. Again, I could really care less about it on a personal level though. Its just extremely disruptive to the process and I would have reported you for anyway regardless of the other ANU complaint. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- “No you” isn’t a great counterargument. Dronebogus (talk) 03:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- You can chalk that up to over sensitivity on my part. But I see it purely as a needless, disruptive time waster. If not an intentional attempt to derail things on your side. The same as it would be if someone constantly commented in DRs about their cat. More so in this case though because people have already told you multiple times to cut the sparious comments about other people's motiviations. I know I have swveral times. Your the one seems to be unwilling to get the point and keep your attitude in check after multiple warnings. Again, I could really care less about it on a personal level though. Its just extremely disruptive to the process and I would have reported you for anyway regardless of the other ANU complaint. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Those quotes at the top don't strike me as personal attacks -- they're judgments of a pattern of mass nominations that several other people have also found fault with. — Rhododendrites talk | 03:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Your free to disagree that the term "attack" there is appropriate. They are inherently "personal" comments though because they relate to the personal motivations of the nominator, not the actual reasons they gave for the deletion requests. That's fine, but I don't think the place to raise such objections is to repeatedly do it on every single DR that the person making the comments disagrees with. Otherwise it's just off-topic, tendentious cruft. Especially in this case since I was more then willing to discuss the "faults" on my talk page and suggested multiple times that whatever the disagreement was about could be raised on the Village Pump. No one wanted to do that though. Including Dronebogus.
- I don't think repeatedly making the same "personal" (again as in being purely about the nominator, not the nomination per se) in multiple DRs as nothing more then a bad faithed derailing and/or drama farming technique is really was an appropriate way to handle it though. Especially since again, I was more then willing to discuss things in other places. And like I've said, it's something Dronebogus has a pretty well established history of doing. So.. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose any sanctions since these aren't personal attacks. However, to everyone else, please COM:AGF – unless anyone has crystal clear evidence that this was a "retaliation attempt", let's not go that way. --SHB2000 (talk) 05:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It's rather Adamant1 who is currently doing drama and disruption, sorry. --A.Savin 08:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't propose anything anyway. I think its totally reasonable to expect people to stay on topic in a deletion request and not make it about the nominator's motivations though. That's literally all I'm asking for here and I certainly don't see how it's disruptive or causing drama on my end. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment "Adamant1 once again nominating AI art for deletion because it’s AI" and I'm supposedly the one being uncivil and causing drama here. Right. Dude can't even be bothered to write a single message that isn't a needless personal jab. But sure, I'm the one being disruptive. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Question"This is a gross violation of policy and I’m half thinking of reporting them if it continues apace." Are we not allowed to bring up violations of policy anymore?--Trade (talk) 13:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's mostly the "gross violation of policy" when there's zero I violating any policy, let alone grossly. As well as the "half thinking of reporting them." I don't think someone should go around saying in random discussions that they are "half thinking" about reporting another user to ANU generally, but it's part of a pattern of behavior in this case. Behavior that he's been told to stop doing. So it's more of an issue then it would be normally. Regardless, no one should be going around making comments about how they are considering reporting another user. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- "Regardless, no one should be going around making comments about how they are considering reporting another user" That would make it way harder to have any discussion about other user's (perceived) problematic behavior. Not just you specifically, just in general Trade (talk) 14:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- What does someone's personal urge to report a user have to do with that users' problematic behavior? If it's really an issue, just report them. There's no reason to go off about how your thinking about doing it though. Maybe it's just me, at least IMO the place to have a discussion about another users behavior is an ANU complaint. Talk pages of DRs aren't usually the proper place for that or resolving personal disputes. Not to say I haven't used them that way, but it inherently does distract from the DR and get in the way of the normal process. Like if someone was committing vandalism by way of a DR I'd just report them for it. I'm not going to waste my time pointing a finger at them well I go off about how I'm considering opening an ANU complaint about it. Otherwise it just doesn't seem like a genuine issue. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- "Regardless, no one should be going around making comments about how they are considering reporting another user" That would make it way harder to have any discussion about other user's (perceived) problematic behavior. Not just you specifically, just in general Trade (talk) 14:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's mostly the "gross violation of policy" when there's zero I violating any policy, let alone grossly. As well as the "half thinking of reporting them." I don't think someone should go around saying in random discussions that they are "half thinking" about reporting another user to ANU generally, but it's part of a pattern of behavior in this case. Behavior that he's been told to stop doing. So it's more of an issue then it would be normally. Regardless, no one should be going around making comments about how they are considering reporting another user. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Adamant1 is now blocked for two weeks per above. I think this discussion should be formally closed without action as a frivolous revenge report. Dronebogus (talk) 15:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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User keeps adding {{PD-US}}
to images that are very clearly not from 1929 Trade (talk) 13:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- He have never participated in any deletion request nor have he ever responded on his talk page regarding the copyright issues Trade (talk) 13:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Blocked for a month. Yann (talk) 13:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Crimsonalfred2022 (talk · contribs) again
editUser has previously been blocked for copyvio in December ([7]), was reported again in January ([8]), they have plenty of warnings and notices on their talk page going back to 2022 ([9]), and they were indefinitely blocked from Wikipedia on 22 June for repeated copyvios there ([10]). Since then (i.e. even since 22 June), they've continued to mass-upload images with dubious licensing information, all of which are clearly grabbed from somewhere on the web. (They're likely also evading their Wikipedia block through IP edits which are adding some of these files to Wikipedia; see evidence here.)
In the recent uploads, the source is labeled "pinterest" (without a link), author is claimed to be "unknown", and license is tagged as PD-Egypt, but no evidence is provided to support any of this. Examples include: File:Ayman Younes (Zamalek SC).jpg, File:Zamalek - Cairo (1972).jpg, File:Farouk Gaafar 1981.jpg, File:Ashraf Kasem (1984).jpg, etc. Even if the stated dates of the photos are correct (no obvious way to confirm this), my reading of PD-Egypt is that they are still too recent to be in PD in the United States and thus do not belong on Commons.
Some of their older uploads – images of old actors and movie posters, etc – are tagged as PD, but they've put themselves as "author" and the "source" appears to be their own Flickr account (Crimson2022 Alfred), which is merely doing the same thing as their Commons account. At best, the author attribution is wrong, and at worse, it's impossible once again to confirm the copyright status of the original work. Examples: File:Abdel Halim Hafez.jpg, File:Bahiga Hafez.jpg, File:Kham El-Khalili (1976).jpg (this one even has a mysterious watermark in the upper right corner), etc.
The user has 200+ uploads, so I don't have the capacity to investigate, tag, and/or nominate for deletion all their problematic uploads, but this looks like a pattern of long-term ignorance of Commons:Licensing. R Prazeres (talk) 00:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment There are some problematic uploads, but the information provided is better than by many other users. Yann (talk) 19:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- In the latest, e.g. here and here, they uploaded screenshots from Youtube videos with no evidence of permission. The information they provide has no bearing on demonstrating compatible licensing. R Prazeres (talk) 17:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Blocked for a month (2nd block), all recent copyvios deleted. Yann (talk) 18:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- In the latest, e.g. here and here, they uploaded screenshots from Youtube videos with no evidence of permission. The information they provide has no bearing on demonstrating compatible licensing. R Prazeres (talk) 17:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
All of Joanmonito65's uploads are copyright violations and give no indication of free licensing [11]. They uploaded two files (1, 2) to supersede the free-use version on enwiki, then reverted me three times on enwiki after I tried to remove it. [12]. They reverted me after I tried to speedy delete the two files on commons. They have provided no edit summaries and blanked my talk page notice on enwiki. They were also previously warned here for their copyright vios. Thanks, PerfectSoundWhatever (talk) 05:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Deleted all their uploads and left them a final warning. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate it. However, the file has been re-uploaded (file) PerfectSoundWhatever (talk) 15:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Blocked for a month by The Squirrel Conspiracy. Yann (talk) 19:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Extended to indef per evidence on en.wiki that it's a VoA. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:15, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Blocked for a month by The Squirrel Conspiracy. Yann (talk) 19:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate it. However, the file has been re-uploaded (file) PerfectSoundWhatever (talk) 15:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Now also globally locked. I deleted the user page. Yann (talk) 07:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Ominae
edit- User: Ominae (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log)
- Reasons for reporting: For years, I have been railing against incomplete deletion requests, which are caused by malformed use of {{Delete}} templates and lack of follow-through, and which are populating subcats of Category:Incomplete deletion requests. This problem spurred the creation of that category 17:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC), over 17 years ago, and my tracking of it 18:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC), over three years ago. As a precedent, ColorfulSmoke was blocked 17:07, 29 December 2020 (UTC) by Mdaniels5757 with an expiration time of 3 days (account creation blocked) for "Continuing to make malformed deletion requests despite repeated instructions; not responding to concerns on talk page", pursuant to the discussion archived at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks and protections/Archive 29#ColorfulSmoke, and Alex Neman was blocked 16:30, 27 January 2023 (UTC) by Yann with an expiration time of 1 month (account creation blocked) for "Continuing to make malformed deletion requests despite repeated instructions; not responding to concerns on talk page" pursuant to the discussion archived at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks and protections/Archive 34#Alex Neman. Ominae made this edit 06:03, 25 April 2023 (UTC): omitting subpage, transclusion, notice to the page creator, year, month, and day. I reminded them of their mistake and warned them in this edit 05:50, 25 April 2023 (UTC) after two previous archived reminders and followed on six minutes later. They neglected to respond per User talk:Ominae/Archive 3#Warning, and made such an edit again in these edits 12:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC): again omitting subpage, transclusion, notice to the page creator, year, month, and day. Please block them.
— 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not done I believe I've said this before when you've brought other users here for the same reason, but I don't see how this kind of thing raises to the level of warranting a block. This is clearly a user trying to G7 their own upload and not knowing the proper template. Commons can be very obtuse, is most users' second project, and is a multi-language project with a huge amount of documentation only in English or English and a few European languages. I'm more than happy to extend grace to people for not using the correct template when they're genuinely trying to contribute to the project, as seems to be the case here. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @The Squirrel Conspiracy: Yann and Mdaniels5757 appear to have different opinions. Also, the user uploaded the file in 2022, what gives them the right to G7 a redirect to it? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have deleted the redirect as it was both unused and there is no harm in deleting it at all. Yes, the user should be requesting deletion as the procedure is, but although badly formed, intention was clear and it was easier to just replace with a {{G7}} tag and warning them once again. They could have possibly just forgotten your previous message, which was over a year ago. Bedivere (talk) 02:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Bedivere: Ok, I warned them again. Please don't forget that you yourself blocked AxelHH 05:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC) for "Continuing to make malformed deletion requests despite repeated instructions; not responding to concerns on talk page". My previous instructions (also not responded to) were archived at User talk:Ominae/Archive 3#Category:Toophan MRAP and User talk:Ominae/Archive 3#Reminder. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 03:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have deleted the redirect as it was both unused and there is no harm in deleting it at all. Yes, the user should be requesting deletion as the procedure is, but although badly formed, intention was clear and it was easier to just replace with a {{G7}} tag and warning them once again. They could have possibly just forgotten your previous message, which was over a year ago. Bedivere (talk) 02:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @The Squirrel Conspiracy: Yann and Mdaniels5757 appear to have different opinions. Also, the user uploaded the file in 2022, what gives them the right to G7 a redirect to it? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not done I believe I've said this before when you've brought other users here for the same reason, but I don't see how this kind of thing raises to the level of warranting a block. This is clearly a user trying to G7 their own upload and not knowing the proper template. Commons can be very obtuse, is most users' second project, and is a multi-language project with a huge amount of documentation only in English or English and a few European languages. I'm more than happy to extend grace to people for not using the correct template when they're genuinely trying to contribute to the project, as seems to be the case here. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Ыфь77
editЫфь77 (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information) User responded to User:Jeff G.'s perfectly reasonable request not to make malformed deletion requests with an accusation "Я обвиняю Jeff G. в преследовании по политическим мотивам. Прошу оградить меня от его нападок", which according to Google Translate means "I accuse Jeff G. of political persecution. Please protect me from his attacks." The accusation is entirely off-base. I cannot imagine how this could be "political persecution": it is a simple matter of telling the user to follow Commons' processes correctly, in a matter where Ыфь77's behavior can really only be considered either ignorant, negligent, incompetent, or (less likely) malicious.
I'm not sure what I want to see happen here, but at the very least if User:Ыфь77 won't withdraw their charge of political persecution they should be blocked for a personal attack. - Jmabel ! talk 19:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done blocked one day. If they continue doing these accusations, groundless in my opinion, should the future blocks be longer. Bedivere (talk) 19:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel and @Bedivere: Thanks. I am not persecuting anyone except Vladimir Putin, who appears to be using the Russian military to aggressively wage war on the people of Ukraine without good reason. My signature and user page reflect my opinion of Mr. Putin. This has nothing to do with Commons users. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not that I am supporting disruptive edits but I can see why User:Jeff G.'s signature could be disconcerting to a Russian user. Commander Keane (talk) 05:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel and @Bedivere: Thanks. I am not persecuting anyone except Vladimir Putin, who appears to be using the Russian military to aggressively wage war on the people of Ukraine without good reason. My signature and user page reflect my opinion of Mr. Putin. This has nothing to do with Commons users. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
メイド理世
editメイド理世 (talk · contribs) uploaded lots of copyright protected content, see their talk page. After I tag this photo, File:Nanjing, 1 July 2024 (109).jpg, they cropped out the non-copyvio one and just keep the copyvio character.
Per their discussion on Commons:Deletion_requests/File:28码脚型飞机杯(右脚)_(cropped).jpg, Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:後藤ひとり.jpg,_File:山田リョウ、後藤ひとり.jpg,_File:山田リョウ.jpg and current behaviour, I strictly suspect this one is clearly CIR, both for using English and learning about copyright laws. Lemonaka (talk) 09:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose, This cropped image is child pornography toys, 2. there no freedom of panorama of 2D works in china. 3. I am like the anonymous shenzhen photographers? 4. why rollbacking this empty kept category??? I does not speak the english language, i can speak chinese, fuck great firewall (GFW) banned this website. メイド理世 (talk) 06:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- 以后这样我不会在这里上传2D作品了。 メイド理世 (talk) 08:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Yann they cleaned their talk pages to avoid being found they have been warned a lot. Please take action. Lemonaka (talk) 09:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- 反正没事了,移动在用户讨论存档了。 メイド理世 (talk) 09:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Before I left the above comment, you directly removed your talk page notice, instead of archiving them. After I reported, you move it to your archive. Lemonaka (talk) 09:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- 反正没事了,移动在用户讨论存档了。 メイド理世 (talk) 09:50, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Yann they cleaned their talk pages to avoid being found they have been warned a lot. Please take action. Lemonaka (talk) 09:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Roberto9191
editRoberto9191 (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)
Created account and immediately promoted 16 Quality Images (which was detected and votes stricken). Most of the falsely promoted images were poor-quality pictures by Marwenwafi. Plozessor (talk) 04:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done, blocked. --A.Savin 06:31, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Melsele
editMelsele (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)
Persistent uploader of obvious and apparent copyright violation. Ignores warnings. Jcb (talk) 09:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done I blocked this user about uploading files. Hopefully they will respond to warnings. Yann (talk) 14:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
User talk:Paulsmith5752
editUser talk:Paulsmith5752 that user is uploading nude images and he says "I uploaded it by mistake". and that last image is about genital of child and he said again "I uploaded it by mistake". i dont believe he did it by mistake. he is doing disruptive editing, please give him a block and at least a warning please. modern_primat ඞඞඞ ----TALK 16:41, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Blocked as VOA, obviously NOTHERE. All files deleted. Yann (talk) 16:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
This user uploaded a [sfw] image of what they claimed was a fetishistic sex toy molded from a child’s body. They later tried to walk back on their claims and said they weren’t sure it was based on a real child and bought it for non-prurient reasons but it’s incredibly disturbing that they would mention such things in the first place. Now I might’ve (barely) let this slide as the behavior of a well-meaning eccentric who doesn’t speak good English but they have been blocked on three other wikis for disruption. I don’t think their unremarkable positive contributions justify tolerance of a known problem user who uploads appalling content that severely harms the reputation of Commons. Dronebogus (talk) 10:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
User:RosaryTeam
editRosaryTeam (talk · contribs) is using Commons to advertise their store for AI generated imagery. They will also revert any edit that adds the template {{PD-algorithm}} and Category:AI images generated by unidentified software to their images. Trooper57 (talk) 16:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Trooper57: looks like you did not notify them of this discussion on their talk page. I will do that for you. - Jmabel ! talk 18:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- because it is not the case of algorithm generated, I have the Adobe InDesign vector files. RosaryTeam (talk) 19:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
User:Paulaencina
editUpload copyvios after warning, with different file name. See File:Shirley pepe 1.png and deleted File:La shirley el pepe.jpg (deleted twice) Regards!! Ezarateesteban 21:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Ezarate: Please remember to notify the user next time as per the instructions at the top of this page – I've done it for you this time. --SHB2000 (talk) 02:07, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Solomon203
editSolomon203 (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)
Evidence shows that the user intentionally violated COM:FNC. Unfortunately, TimWu007 already accepted his request and moved to new title. See: [13]. Given that Solomon203 recent contributions have made unnecessary requests for file-renaming most of which have been denied, I recommend that you temporarily stop any requests until you have a good understanding of COM:FNC.--111.253.26.42 08:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- @111.253.26.42, did you notice the first line of the Notes on top of this page, "Before reporting one or more users here, try to resolve the dispute by discussing with them first."? --Túrelio (talk) 10:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- The IP user is obviously Kai3952. --Solomon203 (talk) 10:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not done Was the original name good enough? Probably (unless I'm missing something). Is there any grounds for admin action? No. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 16:42, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Keylansual3882
editKeylansual3882 (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)
The user uploads the same files again (political flags under fair use) after warnings. Taichi (talk) 04:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done 2 week block. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:44, 10 July 2024 (UTC)