Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:The statue of Mihai Eminescu in Bucharest
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
The statue was completed in 1963 by Gheorghe D. Anghel (1904–1966). There is no freedom of panorama in Romania. The copyright term of the country is 70 years, and the image can be undeleted in 2037.
- File:Ateneo rumeno di Bucarest 07.jpg
- File:Ateneo rumeno di Bucarest 08.jpg
- File:Ateneo rumeno di Bucarest 09.jpg
- File:Ateneo rumeno di Bucarest 10.jpg
- File:Bucuresti, Romania. Atheneul Roman. Eminescu si Batranul Maslin (700 de ani) Duminica Floriilor. Aprilie 2019.jpg
- File:Statua di Mihai Eminescu a Bucarest 01.jpg
A1Cafel (talk) 03:06, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi A1Cafel, I suppose you already checked the statue is not listed on the WLM authorized monuments list (the Romanian Atheneum is). I cannot find this list quickly right now. Thank you --Camelia (talk) 09:14, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, no proper authorization from heirs of the sculptor. @Camelia.boban: , WLM-Romania listing does not exempt these images from being tagged as violating sculptor's posthumous copyright. The authorization should be obvious and the heirs of sculptor should send clearance of commercial Creative Commons license to Wikimedia via COM:VRTS. Wikimedia Commons does not allow non-commercial licenses as per COM:Licensing, which makes Romanian copyright law incompatible with the policies of Wikimedia Commons. Only conmercial-type licensing is allowed (like CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, CC-zero, and PD).
- If the change in law is not possible (to remove non-commercial condition), then permission from sculptor's heirs is required. Failing that, undelete on January 1, 2059 (not 2037 as A1Cafel calculated). 95+1 years after public display because of subsisting U.S. copyright for all eligible international works (like works of Romania) established by Uruguay Round Agreements Act of 1994. URAA-impacted public sculptural monuments can be hosted here anyway, provided that the country has commercial freedom of panorama (which makes {{Not-free-US-FOP}} tag valid). But for sculptural monuments from no-commercial FOP countries like Romania, those will not be restored/undeleted even if those fall public domain locally, until the longer U.S. copyright expires. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 11:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the legal detailes, I'm quite familiar with Commons licenses and how they work. What I meant and hoped, was that there would be WLM lists in Romania on the model of the WLM lists in Italy, i.e. containing ONLY the monuments for which there are resolutions signed by the copyright holders. But it seems that for WLM Romania there are no such lists. Therefore nothing against deleting these files. Camelia (talk) 15:33, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Camelia.boban unsure if that is applicable, since I assume Romanian law has slightly different model than the Italian law; Romanian law may recognize author's rights (closer to most EU members' laws) in contrast to the Italian law which, like many Wikimedia Italy peeps insist, upholds more on the rights of physical owners (which makes authorizations from Italian cities or dioceses seemingly binding by law).
- No news too if Romanian Wikimedians will follow the path the Belgian Wikimedians took though. That is, FoP implementation. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 21:16, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the legal detailes, I'm quite familiar with Commons licenses and how they work. What I meant and hoped, was that there would be WLM lists in Romania on the model of the WLM lists in Italy, i.e. containing ONLY the monuments for which there are resolutions signed by the copyright holders. But it seems that for WLM Romania there are no such lists. Therefore nothing against deleting these files. Camelia (talk) 15:33, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, Undelete in 2059 as Jwilz says. --Abzeronow (talk) 22:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)